Le 25 avr. 2015 01:21, "Stathis Papaioannou" <stath...@gmail.com> a écrit :
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> On Saturday, April 25, 2015, Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> 2015-04-24 23:07 GMT+02:00 Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com>:
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>>> On Friday, April 24, 2015, spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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>>>> For some, its a conundrum, or in any case see it as a block to
cloning, or a slam dunk into the trash bin of physics and philosophy. For
me, no.
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>>> Philosophically there is no problem with the no clone theorem, since
even if a perfect copy is needed to preserve consciousness the no clone
theorem does not preclude perfect copying.
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>>> Practically there is no problem with the no clone theorem since your
brain undergoes gross change from moment to moment and you feel that you
remain the same person.
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>> That's true, unless even in principle what gives rise to consciousness
is not duplicable, accessible to us... (It's dubious, since our
reality/nature did succeed to make it; at the very least for me). But if
reality as it isn doesn't give us access to that (whatever we do, forever,
because it is impossible like going faster than the speed of light under
relativity, or going before the big bang as the time is beginning with
it... and that indeed assumes a theory like computationalism is false),
then it is a problem even phisophisically (that is if you still want to
follow logic and still want what you're saying to be meaningfull)
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> The no clone theorem refers to physical copying,

I know.

so it isn't relevant if consciousness is due to something else, like an
immaterial soul.

It is if perfect physical copying is not enough because it misses
something.

Quentin
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