WMAP was flawed according to the latest sky survey announced recently. The big 
acceleration has long ago reversed and heat death here we come. Tipler's new 
claims are wrapped in his theology, yet can be instructional none the less, 
unless you feel that uploading and antimatter weapons are logically impossible 
forever? Yes, his omega point is over kill, but this was for lots of other 
mindful things aside from resurrection, which is the greater importance to 
humans. There seem to be better ways then the long wait offered by Tipler. One 
way, is to comprehend that at basis, the universe and the info it contains is 
available and transportable, and has evolved this way for a very long time. 
 
 
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From: John Clark <[email protected]>
To: everything-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Apr 25, 2015 12:19 pm
Subject: Re: Practicalities of Mind Uploading


 
  
   
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015  LizR     <[email protected]> wrote:   
   
    
    
     
      
       
                 
> The question is whether the you who was a biological entity experiences 
> waking up as the uploaded version.          
         
       
      
     
    
    
     
    
    
If the "you" who woke up this morning is the same "you" that went to sleep last 
night then the answer to the above question is obvious. If the "you" who woke 
up this morning is NOT the same "you" that went to sleep last night then the 
answer to the above question is unimportant.     
    
     
    
    
     
      
       
        
> Tipler claims        
       
      
     
    
    
     
    
    
Tipler's old claims were interesting but later proven to be wrong, Tipler's new 
claims are insane.    
    
     
    
     
      
       
        
> that is guaranteed if you can duplicate - or, apparently, just simulate - the 
> quantum state of your body         
        
       
      
     
    
    
     
    
    
That would be VAST overkill! The quantum state of your body changes about a 
hundred thousand million billion trillion times every second of your life, but 
subjectively it doesn't cause a loss of personal identity, and in a case like 
this subjectivity is far more important than objectivity.    
    
     
    
    
  John K Clark    
    
     
    
    
     
    
    
     
   
  
 
  
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