If you are punishing the family member the same way you would punish the perpetrator, then how is the disutility any different?
And correct me if I'm wrong, youre fine with punishing family members or friends if the deterrence value is sufficient? On Monday, April 27, 2015, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > On 4/27/2015 5:29 PM, Dennis Ochei wrote: > > > You could just execute/imprison the two remaining actors > > Well, i thought it was obvious that you can't just walk down the street > and stop them... I didn't realize I had to spell that out. > > > You don't want to punish the first actor's family because that is > disutility to them as well as, or instead of, the actor > > Right! We seem to care about punishing the person who committed the > crime, not mere deterrence. Deterrence is a necessary but not sufficient > reason to inflict disutility on a given person. It must also be the case > that the punishee committed the act that we want to deter. > > So you cannot punish the delayed duplicate without weighing in on the > personal identity question. > > > No. It's not that we care about punishing the person who committed the > crime. We care about deterrence as it contributes to the overall well > being of the society. So we weigh the disutility of punishing the family > against the utility it would provide in deterrence. I think it would come > out highly negative, but it depends somewhat on how much prospective > murderers are influenced by their families welfare. You usually get the > most deterrent utility by punishing the person who committed the crime, but > that's a consequence of how psychology works - not a basic principle. > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/everything-list/xrPfkrIWCWw/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','everything-list%[email protected]');> > . > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
