On 27 Apr 2015, at 08:21, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>
wrote:
On 24 Apr 2015, at 02:30, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 1:19 AM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
You should both go to jail, on the basis that both copies of you
had the same consciousness as the person who committed the murder,
and therefore you are both equally responsible (leaving aside
considerations of free will etc)
I agree. I would be curious to know if anyone disagrees with this,
and why.
Now, I agree. And Liz gave two good arguments, one pure 3p, and the
other is terms of moral punishment. The first one is enough, but the
second one make sense too.
Another "terrible question": do people have the right to torture
copies, when they accepted the protocols, that is with consent made
at the time before the duplication?
Should that be made illegal? (assuming the technology, comp, etc.)
If you assume comp, I don't think this is different from the dilemma
of whether a person has the right to torture another if the other
consents.
I can conceive that some find this not acceptable, as long as we have
only one exemplary of oneself.
Some people are masochistic and desire torture, even to be placed in
a situation where they know they can't withdraw consent later. Our
current legal systems tend to solve this problem using Monty Python
logic: if someone wants to be tortured they have a mental problem,
if they have a mental problem they cannot give consent.
I think mainstream western ethics are influenced by the golden rule.
We could do worse than the golden rule (see ISIS) be perhaps we
could also do better: do unto others as they would have done unto
them. This requires a level of tolerance for individual preferences
that I don't think human civilization has attained yet.
Yes. It will take time.
Bruno
Telmo.
Bruno
And (this is the clincher) you are both equally a danger to
society, having had your psychopathic tendencies duplicated means
you're twice as much of a danger as you were when there was only
one of you.
QED, "You're nicked, sunshine."
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