On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 12:09 PM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Indeed. Lots and lots of people have given the "explanation" > a > d nauseam > , but they all boil down to the same thing, " > the > future > first-person > experience > " means the things "you" will experience in the future, and the future > "you" means the guy having the future first person experience. And round > and round we go. > And although there are plenty of people around and all of them are having > first person experiences (and yes having those experiences from the 1p NOT > the 3p using Bruno's peepee notation) nevertheless somehow for reasons > never explained there is only one " *THE* > first-person perspective > ". > > That's not the explanation I meant. I was clear that the explanation I was referring to was how the many-worlds and single-world duplication scenarios are equivalent from the first-person perspective. Not sure why you changed the subject there.
This has become tedious and uninteresting to me because I don't see the possibility of an authentic exchange based on arguing with a sense of respect for my position. That doesn't mean you have to agree with it, just means that you'll make the effort to understand it before arguing against it. That's the "lazy" part. Whatever it is, you seem unwilling to adopt a different perspective for the sake of argument. I've put some effort into trying to understand your opposition to the step 3 stuff starting with a novel thought experiment, and following the trail to where we are now. Which is: you don't think it makes sense to talk about "the chances of appearing in X or Y" in a physical-duplication scenario. Your position is that "you" appear in both locations, and there's nothing more to say. Given that you don't have this objection to Many-Worlds style duplication, the crux of your objection lies in the ambiguities with referring to multiple physical bodies in the same world. I have an argument for this, but you won't engage it. I know you think you are, but you're not, as evidenced by my first paragraph above. I would repeat my argument here, but I don't have any reason to expect that you will take it seriously. Terren -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
