On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Terren Suydam <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> Indeed. Lots and lots of people have given the "explanation" >> a >> d nauseam >> , but they all boil down to the same thing, " >> the >> future >> first-person >> experience >> " means the things "you" will experience in the future, and the future >> "you" means the guy having the future first person experience. And round >> and round we go. >> And although there are plenty of people around and all of them are having >> first person experiences (and yes having those experiences from the 1p NOT >> the 3p using Bruno's peepee notation) nevertheless somehow for reasons >> never explained there is only one " *THE* >> first-person perspective >> ". >> > > > > That's not the explanation I meant. I was clear that the explanation I was > referring to was how the many-worlds and single-world duplication scenarios > are equivalent from the first-person perspective. Not sure why you changed > the subject there. > How can it explain anything if the meaning of the phrase "*THE* first-person perspective " and meanings of the personal pronoun "you" change back and forth without rhyme or reason within a single paragraph? > > > you seem unwilling to adopt a different perspective for the sake of > argument. > If words don't have a consistent meaning then it's not an argument, it's just a sequence of unrelated ASCII characters. > > > Your position is that "you" appear in both locations, and there's nothing > more to say. > That is my position only under some meanings of the personal pronoun "you", and it's getting very rare around here for the same definition of "you" to be used in 2 consecutive sentences in posts from Bruno or from one of Bruno's fans. > > > Given that you don't have this objection to Many-Worlds style duplication, > the crux of your objection lies in the ambiguities with referring to > multiple physical bodies in the same world. > The crux is that there is one unique sequence of past yous leading to THE present day you, so the word "the" can be used without embarrassment, but there is no such unique sequence leading to the future, not in Many Worlds and not with duplicating chambers. That causes no problem for Many Worlds because personal identity plays no part in it, but it causes a HUGE problem when Bruno starts talking about THE future first person perspective. > > > This has become tedious and uninteresting to me > You already said that, you said that 4 or 5 posts ago back when you said you weren't going to comment on this thread anymore. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
