On 02 Jul 2015, at 18:09, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Terren Suydam
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't see how you can feel entitled to berate people about
the use of personal pronouns if you are confused on the difference
between the first-person perspective, and descriptions of the first-
person perspective.
I'm very confused about who it is that is experiencing this
"THE" (not a, the) first-person perspective; but I'm not as
confused as you.
> If you're interested in my explanation, go back and find it,
which I've given more than once.
Indeed. Lots and lots of people have given the "explanation" ad
nauseam, but they all boil down to the same thing, "the
future first-person experience" means the things "you"
will experience in the future, and the future "you" means the guy
having the future first person experience.
No, in the future "you" means the guy who rememeber having push on the
button in Helsinki.
*The* first person experience refers to the unique experience that he
will feel to live (perhaps in M, perhaps in W) with certainty (as comp
predicts that both copies, all survivors feel unique).
And round and round we go. And although there are plenty of people
around and all of them are having first person experiences (and yes
having those experiences from the 1p NOT the 3p using Bruno's peepee
notation) nevertheless somehow for reasons never explained there is
only one " *THE* first-person perspective".
No, there two of them, from an outside view. But you, the guy in
Helsinki will, with probability one, feel a unique first person
experience, either in M or in M. And that is "the" first experience we
refer to.
Out of that grand multitude only one can inherit the grand title
"THE",
Not at all. All copies will live that unique (the) experience. The
experience is 1-unique, et 3-1 multiple.
all the others get the mush less prestigious "a",
No. "The" refer to each unique experience felt by any copy.
but nobody seems to know exactly (or even approximately) how these
royal rules of succession work. Bruno believes that sticking in a
diary into this sorry situation things are somehow clarified, but if
you put a gun to my head I couldn't say how that helps in the
slightest.
It helps because we have define here the 1p by the content of the
diary. All talk about a unique experience of being in a unique city.
We agreed that all the copies' opinions count, and on that unicity,
they all agree, like they almost all agree on white noise for the
iterated experiences.
Bruno
> Please do some of the work here.
You're calling me lazy?! I'm not the one who refuses to take the
time to think things through to their final conclusion.
John K Clark
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