On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> if somebody is obviously struggling to find lame excuses to defend the >> indefensible just because it's a minority screaming about a >> >> ancient injustice or demanding that free speech be curtailed on college >> campuses you can be pretty sure he's a liberal. >> > > > > Well, not in my case. Firstly I abhor what's happening in college campuses > and I highly value free speech. > > Secondly, I do not blindly defend minorities. For example, I am 100% on > the side of Charlie Hebdo and I think that, if Muslims want to live in our > society, then they better get used to the idea that we can say whatever we > want about Muhammad. >
Good but be warned, your liberal membership card could be revoked; if you tried to give a speech on the above on many college campuses self described liberals would prevent you from doing so. > > > I am a pacifist and I oppose the initiation of force. I do accept the use > of force in self-defense. Then you're not a pacifist, I'm not a pacifist either, and neither are the heroes of Kung Fu movies even if they do talk about the virtues of pacifism while they're beating the shit out of people. Martin Luther King and Gandhi were pacifists, we're not. > > Now, you can argue that the native Hawaiians > Are "native Hawaiians" people who were born in Hawaii or is that insufficient, do you also have to have the correct bloodline to be allowed into that exclusive club? > > > have no legitimate claim over the mountain, > I do say that, and I further argue that even if the court found they have a legal claim over the mountain (because of who their ancestors were) they are ignorant barbarians for not letting it be used for something as glorious as a thirty meter telescope, especially when there are only 2 other places on the planet where such an instrument could be built. > > > I am more than willing to listen to your arguments. But you start by > assuming that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a moron, and that makes > discussion harder. > Then I guess the discussion is going to get harder because I am making 2 assumptions and both seem entirely reasonable to me: 1) Anyone who opposes the Thirty Meter Telescope because they believe the construction noise will disturb the sleep of Mother Earth and Father Sky is a moron. 2) Anyone who feels it is his duty to make lame excuses for people in the above category is also a moron. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
