On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:17 PM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 10:27 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> And a conservative is against personal freedom, for war, the NSA, >> Homeland Security, and the Chicago police. Against immigrants, blacks, >> hispanics, women, gays, atheists, Muslims, and poor people in general. >> They're against stem cell research, marijuana research, and gun safety >> research. >> > > > Everything you say about conservatives is true and it's > all > deplorable. Conservative > s > are dead wrong about lots and lots of things, but liberals and > conservatives tend to be wrong about different things. If somebody is > talking about building a wall between Mexico and the USA or putting cancer > patients in jail for smoking marijuana you can be pretty sure he is a > conservative, > but > if somebody is obviously struggling to find lame excuses to defend the > indefensible just because it's a minority screaming about a > > ancient injustice or demanding that free speech be curtailed on college > campuses you can be pretty sure he's a liberal. > Well, not in my case. Firstly I abhor what's happening in college campuses and I highly value free speech. Secondly, I do not blindly defend minorities. For example, I am 100% on the side of Charlie Hebdo and I think that, if Muslims want to live in our society, then they better get used to the idea that we can say whatever we want about Muhammad. My reasoning is quite simple: I am a pacifist and I oppose the initiation of force. I do accept the use of force in self-defense. Now, you can argue that the native Hawaiians have no legitimate claim over the mountain, and I am more than willing to listen to your arguments. But you start by assuming that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a moron, and that makes discussion harder. Telmo. > > > >> You're as ill informed as those Hawiians. I'm a liberal (self-described) >> who's supporting Bernie Sanders >> > > Bernie Sanders is far too radical for my tastes, > > but I'll take him over Donald Trump, and I'll take > Donald Trump > over (shudder) Ted Cruz. > > >> > >> I also support nuclear power plants as part of the solution to global >> warming, I voted to fund genetic engineering and stem cell research in >> California (a bond issue that passed), and I have written several pointed >> letters criticising the "microagression police" and "trigger warnings" on >> the local campus. >> > > All that is to your credit and shows you have both a brain and a heart, > but I don't think it's doing your liberal credentials any good. > > John K Clark > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
