On 2/16/2016 2:04 PM, John Mikes wrote:
Brent:
*/"That's just subscribing to Hume's dictum and cause and effect is
nothing but constant /*
*/conjuction." /*
*/
/*
Could you explain? HD refers to metaphysical items, not applicable to
physically measured data
on brain (neuronal? or other) tissues. I feel I am out of the HD domain.
Why is electrical stimulation of a brain locus consistently eliciting a
certain memory not an example of cause and effect?
The "M E A S U R E D" (measurable) physical/physiological data cannot
assign TOPICAL content
as of a mental activity.
Speech is measurable physical/physiological data. Are you denying that
we can take speech to be a report of mental activity?
Brent
You have to START with a topic (invent one you apply) to force 'changes'
into it by the data. Or: you can do it afterwards as well.
JM
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 2/16/2016 12:38 PM, John Mikes wrote:
*
/(JM):Physical sciences - so far - never explained the MENTAL
activity assigned to brains (guts?)/
(Brent:) No, but they explained a lack of mental activity in the
brain due to a variety of different chemical and physical cause*
I would not use "mental activity in the brain" - rather _the
explanation_ referred to
connectivity to (some?) mentality action INFLUENCING (or what?)
the brain's
measurable data. No hint where such came from.
Furthermore Brent wrote:
*So it was no merely assumed, but based on empirical observation
of what *
*interferes with mental processes.*
*
*
The 'empirical observation' was**noticing coincidence (or not)
between the
measurable tissue-data and the mental activity. I still hold no
intrinsic
connectivity _What Kind Of *TOPICAL* ISSUES_ in mental items
could be
expressed by what kind of data measured on (brain - or else)
tissues.*
*
That's just subscribing to Hume's dictum and cause and effect is
nothing but constant conjuction.
Brent
*
*
*I abstain from asking "where" is that mentality (center?) - it
may not be *
*a localizable (or even temporarily traceable) locus. *
*We know so little!*
*
*
*John Mikes*
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Brent Meeker
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 2/15/2016 12:38 PM, John Mikes wrote:
JKC wrote: "
Giuseppe Peano
did not have
a brain made of matter that obeyed the laws of physics
?! Was he headless or just brainless? Perhaps Giuseppe's
mother had the Zika virus when she was pregnant.
Physical sciences - so far - never explained the MENTAL
activity assigned to brains (guts?)
No, but they explained a lack of mental activity in the brain
due to a variety of different chemical and physical causes.
- the physical measurements simply ASSUMED some neuronal
activity "translated" into mental processes.
So it was no merely assumed, but based on empirical
observation of what interferes with mental processes.
Brent
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