On 18/04/2016 12:26 pm, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 Bruce Kellett <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
There is only one Alice and one Bob
in every world that I am talking about too, but there are 4
different worlds, and in each world they observe 4 unique
particles; and 4 different yous are observing the
4 different
Alice and Bobs. The only way to know which of the yous is
you is to observe Alice and Bob observe their particles.
>
They can talk about their results in their own worlds. So what?
So is there a way of knowing which of the 4 yous is you other than by
observing what Alice and Bob are observing? I
f there is I can't imagine what it could be.
There doesn't need to be. I worry only about the Alice and Bob with whom
I share a cup of coffee while they discuss their results.
>
>>
You appear to have a clear grasp of the situation --
either QM is intrinsically non-local, or we have magic......
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Or
non-realism.
>
If by non-realism you mean some version of Einstein's "elements of
reality",
Einstein believed in realism even more than he believed in
determinism or locality, that's why he said the moon existed even when
nobody was looking at it.
John K Clark
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