On Sun, Apr 17, 2016  Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:

​>> ​
>> There is only one Alice and one Bob
>> ​ in every world that I am talking about too, but there are 4 different
>> worlds, and in each world they observe 4 unique particles; and 4 different
>> yous are observing the
>> 4 different
>> ​ Alice and Bobs.​ The only way to know which of the yous is you is to
>> observe Alice and Bob observe their particles.
>>
> ​> ​
> They can talk about their results in their own worlds. So what?
>

​So is there a way of knowing which of the 4 yous is you other than by
observing what Alice and Bob are observing? I
​
f there is I can't imagine what it could be.


> ​ >
>>> ​>>​
>>> ​You appear to have a clear grasp of the situation -- either QM is
>>> intrinsically non-local, or we have magic......
>>
>>
>> ​>> ​
>> Or
>> ​
>>  non-realism.
>
> ​> ​
> If by non-realism you mean some version of Einstein's "elements of
> reality",
>

​Einstein believed in realism even more than he believed in determinism or
locality, that's why he said the moon existed even when nobody was looking
at it.

 John K Clark

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