On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> So is there a way of knowing which of the 4 yous is you other than by >> observing what Alice and Bob are observing? I >> >> f there is I can't imagine what it could be. > > > > > There doesn't need to be. > If you want to know what the results of the experiment are you're going to have to know which of the 4 yous is you. > > > I worry only about the Alice and Bob with whom I share a cup of coffee > while they discuss their results. > That specification is not good enough because all 4 yous share a cup of coffee with Alice and Bob, but only one of the 4 yous can truthfully say "I see my electron as spin down and your electron as spin up", so if you say that then that you must be you. John K Clark > > > > >>>> >> >>>> You appear to have a clear grasp of the situation -- either QM is >>>> intrinsically non-local, or we have magic...... >>> >>> >>> >> >>> Or >>> >>> non-realism. >> >> > >> If by non-realism you mean some version of Einstein's "elements of >> reality", >> > > Einstein believed in realism even more than he believed in determinism > or locality, that's why he said the moon existed even when nobody was > looking at it. > > John K Clark > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
