On 6/11/2016 10:41 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Physics is a description of observable reality. It strikes me nonsensical to say that you "need physics" for something to happen. You seem to equate physics with primary matter, and yet I know of no law of physics that implies primary matter.
Not only that, I don't even know what it would mean to say physics assumed primary matter. Already physicists have theories about the universe arising from */nothing/* - and the */nothing/* is mere mathematical possibility.
I think what Bruno really objects to is not that matter be primary, but that is necessary to explain consciousness or mathematics. He thinks mathematics exists necessarily - like Anselm's God, held up by pure logic. And he thinks, as even JKC agrees, consciousness in instantiated by computations, i.e. mathematics.
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