On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:


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>> As I've said 6.02*10^23 times it's irrelevant if matter is primary or
>> not, matter is still necessary to make calculations or perform intelligent
>> behavior or produce consciousness.
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> I think Bruno agrees with that
>

​That's news to me. If so Bruno should have said that several years ago and
a great many electrons ​

wouldn't have had to give up their lives.

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>> And even if matter isn't primary that doesn't necessarily mean
>> mathematics is.
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> The question is can one be derived from the other?
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​I think so, but neither may be primary.​



> ​> ​
> William S. Cooper, "The Origin of Reason" makes an argument that
> mathematics is a way of brains thinking about things that was found by
> evolution, just like mobility, metabolism, reproduction,...and a lot of
> other functions.
>

​I agree with that, but evolution works according to the laws of ​physics
so a animal who thought 1+1=0 would have fewer offspring than one who
believed 1+1=2. So we'd agree with ET's mathematics because it's the
language of physics.

 John K Clark

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