On 6/9/2016 12:06 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:
>
The question is about primary matter, not matter.
That's your question not mine.
A
s I've said many times, molecules are certainly NOT primary but
molecules certainly exist and molecules certainly are necessary for life
;
and
matter may or may not be primary but either way matter exists
,
and
either way
matter is needed for consciousness.
>>
if what you say is true then ingesting a form of matter that
obeys the laws
of physics like cyanide, strychnine, or cobra venom will
have no effect
on
your consciousness, but I have a hunch it will. So I
don't recommend you do
it.
>
You might actually need to read what I say.
I have read what you said and if you're right and calculations can be
performed and consciousness produced independently of matter then the
injection of a particular form of matter into your bloodstream, such
as cyanide, should have no effect on your consciousness. But it does.
I can explain why and you can't. I can also explain why mathematicians
are made of matter and you can't explain that either.
As I understand it, Bruno thinks that it does not have an effect except
for local communication. His consciousness is a certain pattern of
computational threads and these exist eternally (in PA or equivalent).
Poisoning his material merely makes it impossible for his consciousness
to be manifested in this branch of the multiverse.
Brent
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