On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

​>> ​
>> Forget the "primary" crap. Matter is needed for the existence of
>> computations period.
>
>

> ​> ​
> No, matter is needed locally to make a calculation relative to you in the
> physical reality.
>

​OK fine, but then by your own admission matter has properties that
mathematics alone does not have, the ability to make things real to you.  ​



> ​> ​
> But the relative computations exist,
>

​I don't know if abstract
Platonia
​ exists, but if it does then both correct and incorrect calculations exist
there, and the only way to tell one from the other is through physics.
Calculations of Mercury's orbit using Newton's theory will be incorrect
even if no mathematical error is made, and the only way to know the
calculation was incorrect is to check the calculations against physical
reality. At that point we have to ask somebody (like Einstein) to use the
laws of physics to find a calculation that is less incorrect.


> ​> ​
> you systematically argue like a dogmatic priest from an institutionalized
> religion.
>

Wow, calling a guy known for disliking religion religious, never heard that
one before, at least I never heard it before I was 12.

​ John K Clark​

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