On 26 Jun 2016, at 00:04, John Clark wrote:

Forget the "primary" crap. Matter is needed for the existence of computations period.

No, matter is needed locally to make a calculation relative to you in the physical reality. But the relative computations exist, provably so in any sigma_1 complete theory. Good, as the existence and explanation of the physical reality appearances relies on those computations existing in arithmetic.

You begin again to just repeat nonsensical slogan. I will (try) to not answer them, as they have all already been answered. You say you are not religious, but you systematically argue like a dogmatic priest from an institutionalized religion.

Bruno



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