To my ignorant brain, the very definition of matter needs, somehow, to be precisely, described, and the same with energy. Sometimes, I feel, even doing this is an impossible task. This exchange makes me posit two questions, related, but perhaps dull-making to the writers. Is it conceivable in the physics of what we know, that there is some physical, hyperspace, call it Platonic, where a computation can run? Back to matter-energy, is a photon, or a neutrino, massless, is that matter or energy? Secondly, do virtual particles, say a photon (are photons the only such virtual particle?), that emerge from (where?) and the re-absorb to (where?)??
I ask, philosophically, because, as we say in the States, I am not the sharpest tool in the shed. If calculation space for computations exist, where physically, might such a "phase space" exist, or is this metaphor? I imagine gigantic super machines whirring away somewhere in my mythical hyperspace, waiting for humans to use AI to develop the technology to contact them. This, is known as Fantasy, gibberish, and my favorite science fiction. Hey! This is how I function. I am having enough trouble learning and memorizing computer networking, let, alone, join discussions of the Cosmos, yet, here I write. -----Original Message----- From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jun 30, 2016 10:54 am Subject: Re: The search of truth On 26 Jun 2016, at 00:04, John Clark wrote: Forget the "primary" crap. Matter is needed for the existence of computations period. No, matter is needed locally to make a calculation relative to you in the physical reality. But the relative computations exist, provably so in any sigma_1 complete theory. Good, as the existence and explanation of the physical reality appearances relies on those computations existing in arithmetic. You begin again to just repeat nonsensical slogan. I will (try) to not answer them, as they have all already been answered. You say you are not religious, but you systematically argue like a dogmatic priest from an institutionalized religion. Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
