On 14 Sep 2016, at 02:13, Brent Meeker wrote:

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On 9/13/2016 7:22 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:On Sunday, 11 September 2016, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net>wrote:In the UD model of the world, time as we perceive it, is emergent.The "execution" of the program is timeless and exists in Platonia.So the steps of the UD have no duration, they are logically priorto time and duration. On the other hand, I think so called"observer moments" must have duration in the emergent sense andmust overlap. But their relation to the UD threads is moreaspirational than proven.I think it should be possible to pause and restart at any point aprocess underpinning consciousness and leave the stream ofconsciousness unchanged; otherwise there would be a radicaldecoupling of the mental from the physical. At the limit, thismeans the process underpinning consciousness can be cut up intoinfinitesimals.Infinitesimals, I think not, at least not in Bruno's model. Eachthread of the UD's computation can be cut and restarted, butunderlying an "observer moment" or a "thought" are infinitely manythreads and there is no reference by which you can define cuttingthem all at "the same time". So they make the "time" ofconsciousness essentially real valued.

Good point.

`But that is where the "infinitesimal" comes in, I would say, be them`

`in terms of Cauchy sequences or in term of Non Standard analysis,`

`that's not important at this stage. It depends on the mathematics of`

`the arithmetical measure on 1p experiences (we get them trough the`

`math of self-reference, but are still a long way from an arithmetical`

`Gleason theorem).`

Bruno

`PS wrote this mail yesterday, seems to not have gone through. Sorry if`

`sent in double exemplars.`

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