> On 14 Sep 2016, at 10:13 AM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > >> On 9/13/2016 7:22 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: >> >> >>> On Sunday, 11 September 2016, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: >>> In the UD model of the world, time as we perceive it, is emergent. The >>> "execution" of the program is timeless and exists in Platonia. So the >>> steps of the UD have no duration, they are logically prior to time and >>> duration. On the other hand, I think so called "observer moments" must >>> have duration in the emergent sense and must overlap. But their relation >>> to the UD threads is more aspirational than proven. >>> >> I think it should be possible to pause and restart at any point a process >> underpinning consciousness and leave the stream of consciousness unchanged; >> otherwise there would be a radical decoupling of the mental from the >> physical. At the limit, this means the process underpinning consciousness >> can be cut up into infinitesimals. > > Infinitesimals, I think not, at least not in Bruno's model. Each thread of > the UD's computation can be cut and restarted, but underlying an "observer > moment" or a "thought" are infinitely many threads and there is no reference > by which you can define cutting them all at "the same time". So they make > the "time" of consciousness essentially real valued.
The starting point of computationalism is that you can replace your brain with a machine. If you can, then consciousness supervenes on a physical process of the machine. Thought A supervenes on process a and thought B supervenes on process B. A and B are unaffected if the timing, order or duration of a and b are changed. A and B are unaffected if there are copies of processes a and b up to an infinite number, as long as there is at least one of each. A and B are unaffected if a and b are paused and restarted at arbitrary points; we have then a1, a2, b1, b2 and A1, A2, B1, B2, but there is no subjective consequence to splitting A and B. If A and B are the observer moments and they can be rearranged and split up any way without changing the stream of subjective experience, then in a sense their being rearranged and split up is only meaningful because it can be defined for the physical processes on which they supervene. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
