On 14 Apr 2017, at 20:12, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>
wrote:
> you see an ambiguity in the use of pronouns, and you show it
And Bruno Marchal sees that ambiguity too, otherwise Bruno
Marchal could prove John Clark wrong by just replacing
every personal pronoun with the proper noun it refers to. That would
be very easy to do, but then the weakness of the argument would be
exposed for all to see.
> in an explanation which withdraw the 1p - 3p distinction that
was used. I reply by gently explaining to you that the
ambiguity results from your forgetting of the 1p - 3p distinction.
Well, at least is was "your forgetting" rather than the more
usual "you confuse", but the trouble is in explaining the 1p
- 3p distinction Bruno Marchal makes extensive use of the
future perfect tense and of course of the personal pronoun "you",
even though Bruno Marchal knows that a "you" duplicating
machine is going to be used in the future. And yet Bruno Marchal
says the meaning of the word "you" remains as crystal clear as if it
were used in the present tense in our everyday world that lacks a
"you" duplicating machine. And that just doesn't work.
Bruno Marchal will respond to this by saying John
Clark is forgetting (or confusing) the 1p - 3p
distinction, and in explaining the 1p - 3p distinction Bruno
Marchal will make extensive use of the future perfect tense and
of course of the personal pronoun "you", even though....
Not "you", but 1-yous or 3-you. And that is enough to get the non
ambiguous conclusion. You are the one coming back with "you" without
the needed precision, due to the duplication. It is the same with
proper nouns, as already shown more than one. You repeat a trick which
has been explained away a long time ago.
Bruno
> It is a bit more sophisticate when we do the math
No, math does not make the argument one bit more sophisticated
because math is not magic and one universal principle still holds
true, garbage in garbage out.
John K Clark
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