On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 5:48 PM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 4:27 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >> >>> John Clark has no need to precisely define the word "you" because John >>> Clark has no need to use that or any other personal pronoun to explain John >>> Clark's ideas but instead can simply >>> use a proper noun. By contrast Bruno Marchal can not do that because the >>> inherent ambiguity the word "you" will always have if a "you" duplicating >>> machine is going to be used >>> on "you" >>> in the future is the only thing that disguises the underlying >>> silliness of Bruno Marchal's ideas. >>> >> >> > >> I can do that, I did do that, and you did not answer. I let you find the >> post. > > > Ah yes that mythical magical post that you've been talking about for years, > the wonderful post where you logically refute all my points and make your > theory crystal clear with no circularity or ambiguity, the post that is, > unfortunately, as hard to find > as > the Loch Ness Monster, unicorns, > or > the > pot of gold at the end of > a > rainbow.
You know why it's hard to find? Because every time that post shows up you: go silent; wait a certain amount of time; come back to the beginning of the loop. That's why. It doesn't take an oracle to figure out that this computation doesn't terminate. In any case, the post will never work with you. Natural language is (I think necessarily) ambiguous, so it is only possible to discuss ideas if all interlocutors are acting in good faith. The opportunities to misinterpret anything on purpose are infinite, and you are a master at taking advantage of them. How to talk about first-person experience vs. third-person theory with someone who is fixated on pronoun legalese? Forget about it -- with no offense to Bruno -- it's a fool's errand. Telmo. > John K Clark > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
