On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 11:42 PM, Russell Standish <[email protected]>
wrote:


> ​> ​
> If we
> ​ ​
> take the usual (mathematical) meaning of computation, then I can point
> to a potential counter-example: beta-decay. Recording the arrival
> times of electrons from beta decay using a clock and electron detector
> gives a time series that to our best knowledge is random and hence
> uncomputable. It is an undeniable physical process that is not a
> computation.
>

​I think you're right although Bruno would disagree, he has said from the
point of view of somebody who could observe the entire multiverse (a point
of view that can not exist) everything is deterministic. However what can't
be denied is there are only 2 possibilities: ​


​1) That event DID have a cause and thus is computable (it may be a very
long computation ​but it is finite).

2) That event did NOT have a cause and thus was random and not computable.

One of those two must be true for everything but I don't see how that
second possibility could have much relevance if you're interested in the
study of intelligent behavior.

  John K Clark

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