On 14 Aug 2017, at 20:06, Brent Meeker wrote:



On 8/14/2017 10:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
If after a rat has been duplicated the 2 rats then have different experiences, such as one getting a electric shock and one not getting one, then they will no longer be identical and will behave ​differently in the future. I see no indeterminacy or mystery ​or deep philosophy ​ in any of this.

The rat can't see the indeterminacy, because we can't explain to the rat the protocol.

And you can't explain the MWI either - you can only speculate about it.

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On the contrary. I predicted the MWI from a reasoning based on "putting myself at the place of an amoeba".

So, on the contrary, Quantum Mechanics stops to be a speculation inferred from observation, to become a mathematical law applicable to all (Löbian) machines.

Of course it is not many "worlds" but many computation, so we don't need to postulate anything more than natural numbers and addition and multiplication.




The indeterminancy must be supported by experience, otherwise it's just a circular argument that says, "If X then X".

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I would say that it is terribly well supported by the experiences. Indeed, some people even interpret it into a "real physical" third person indeterminacy, but Mechanism, or just "non-collapse", makes it into a first person plural, and local, points of view.


Bruno




Brent

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