On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:21 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> > If we were able to say in "Helsinki" which one the "1-you" > [...] > I tire of your homemade baby talk. > > > The pronoun used in Helsinki makes perfect sense > Today in in Helsinki the personal pronoun makes perfect sense to everyone from every point of view, but extrapolated into tomorrow and into 2 different cities it makes no sense to anyone from any point of view. >> >> But there is no way for ANYONE to EVER know if the prediction "I will see >> Moscow" was correct or not. > > > > > There will be if ANYONE accompanies the candidate. I go in the cut-box, in > Helsinki, with you. You predict "Washington", say. You push on the button. > I open the door, from inside thus. And we both see "Moscow". You were wrong. > All that is real nice but let me repeat the question that I have asked 999 times and you have dodged 999 time: What one and only one city will I see tomorrow? If you can't answer that question with the name of one and only one city then I don't want to hear any more talk about a "bet" because there is none. > > Nobody will see 50% of Moscow, and nobody will see, in the first person > sense, two cities. > That's because there is no such thing as *THE* first person sense in a world that contains "*THE* first person sense " duplicating machines. > > So you are reasoning like we would have claimed the existence of some *3p* > indeterminacy, but we claim only that there is an "*1p* indeterminacy". > That is incorrect, I never use peepee in my reasoning. > > I feel sorry for you > And that has got to be the most insincere phrase in the English language. John K Clark > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

