On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 4:38 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

​>> ​
>> I don't what another paragraph of bafflegab! You claim  "What is the name
>> of the one and only one city I will end up seeing after I became two?" is a
>> real
>> ​
>>
>
> ​> ​
> ... is a real question. yes. poorly phrased and slightly ambiguous,
>

​It's not slightly ambiguous,
​it's ASTRONOMICALLY ambiguous, but it's what you're asking and it's the
foundation on which you've built your entire philosophical construction.
And that's why I refuse to read any more of your "proof". ​


> ​>> ​
>> and the answer is very easy to find, so let's hear it. Knowing what you
>> know today with the benefit of hindsight what one and only one city name
>> would you have ​answered the Helsinki man's ​
>> ​question with?
>>
>
> ​> ​
> To get the first person views, you need to tell me which copy you ask the
> question,
>

Good god
​, do I really have to spell this out?​
​!​
I didn't ask either copy
​.​
Yesterday I asked the Helsinki man and only the Helsinki man because there
was nobody else to ask, yesterday neither copy existed. I'm amazed that
after all this time I still have to point out this very obvious and
elementary fact.

​> ​
> The point will be that both will answer something like "Washington (resp.
> Moscow), and I could not have predicted it".
>

​If they couldn't predict that the Moscow Man ​will see Moscow and the
Washington man will see Washington then they aren't very bright.


> ​>> ​
>> After the duplication 2 people will have identical copies of that diary
>> in their hand,
>
>
> ​> ​
> Yes. With their "prediction", and both can see that "W & M" is refuted,
>

​Today the day after the experiment was completed ask  Mr. W  2 questions:

1) Are you ​Bruno Marchal?
2) Do you see W?

And then ask Mr. M 2 questions:

1) Are you ​Bruno Marchal?
2) Do you see M?

If the answer in no for any of those 4 questions then my prediction made
yesterday that Bruno Marchal will see 2 cities turned out to be wrong. But
I don't think they will say no. Do you?

John K Clark

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