On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 4:59 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> Then who will be the judge to determine >> >> what the name of the one and only one city the Helsinki man ended up >> seeing? > > > > > The Helsinki man. > I know it's not Helsinki but what is the name of the *ONE* and only *ONE* city that the individual formally known as "the Helsinki man" is in now after "the Helsinki man" became *TWO*? > > I have at least three times given you version without pronouns > Bullshit. > > >>> >> >>> Please use the diaries >> >> >> >> >> For what? They were written yesterday and today nobody can agree on who >> wrote them. > > > > > I do not see this at all. > W says I wrote it, and M says no I wrote it. > > > Yesterday, it is the H-man who wrote the prediction. And today, the > version of the H-man in M can verify > [...] > They can't verify a damn thing if the diary has a prediction about the *ONE* and only *ONE* city the *ONE* Helsinki man will or will not see because now there are *TWO* Helsinki men seeing *TWO* entirely different cities. >> >> And today after you've learned all there is to know about it that's STILL >> the best you can say, and that >> >> is >> >> *NOTHING* like coin throwing! >> >> If you ask me today how a coin landed yesterday I just tell you, I don't >> say "it turned out the coin landed heads or tails but not both with 50% >> probability", I don't mention probability at all, >> >> I just >> >> mention the face >> >> it >> >> turned out that the coin landed on, and that can be done with >> >> ONE WORD, not a paragraph of bafflegab >> >> , >> >> just >> >> ONE WORD >> >> because that's all that's needed >> >> . >> >> > > > > That is exactly the same in the *FIRST-PERSON POV OF EACH COPY*. > Bullshit. > > > The guys open the door, and both answer it with one word: > Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure 1+1=2 . > > Just put yourself at the place of one of the copy > Just put yourself in the place of both copies. > > >>> >> >>> So bot confirms "W v M", >> >> >> >> No, it turned out neither saw W or M. > > > > > That *is* gibberish. > Both are the Helsinki man and W didn't see M and M didn't see W so the Helsinki man saw no city at all. Yes that's gibberish but it makes as much sense as what you're saying. > >> And when you observe a coin flip you don't see it land heads or tails >> either. > > > > > Indeed, but this makes my point. > If your point is the duplicating experiment is nothing like a coin flip then you've made your point well. > > > What is your agenda? > Gee I thought you already knew, my agenda is the same as Conan the Barbarian's, to crush my enemies and see them driven before me and to hear the lamentations of their women. John K Clark > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
