On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 1:51 PM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Terren Suydam <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> ​> ​
>> Then we agree that expectations are important, since the wrong ones can
>> kill us.
>>
>
> ​
> Forget important, expectations are not even meaningful in thought
> experiments involving people duplicating machines if
> ​ ​
> it is not clearly stated what is being expected.
>

You're arguing against things I haven't said. To be frank, I tuned out of
the John Clark/Bruno Marchal wars sometime last year... after a few dozen
times around that carousel I wanted off. So don't assume I'm going to say
something Bruno is saying. I do expect (ahem) to be able to clearly state
was is being expected in the thought experiment, without requiring personal
pronouns.

But before we continue, I need to be sure we agree that from your
first-person perspective, when it comes to making decisions based on some
future state, you only have the contents of your mind to work with. Your
mental model, your worldview, pick whatever language you like, it's what
gives you a sense of what to expect, and therefore the only basis one has
for placing bets. Do you disagree?

Terren

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