On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Terren Suydam <[email protected]>
wrote:

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>> ​>> ​
>> Forget important, expectations are not even meaningful in thought
>> experiments involving people duplicating machines if
>> ​ ​
>> it is not clearly stated what is being expected.
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> You're arguing against things I haven't said.
>

​I never claimed you did say it.​ Every comment I make in a post is not
necessarily a rebuttal to something somebody else said.


> ​> ​
> I do expect (ahem) to be able to clearly state was is being expected in
> the thought experiment, without requiring personal pronouns.
>

​I hope ​Terren Suydam is careful with personal pronouns too,  if everybody
was this thread would have ended years ago.

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> But before we continue, I need to be sure we agree that from your
> first-person perspective, when it comes to making decisions based on some
> future state, you only have the contents of your mind to work with. Your
> mental model, your worldview, pick whatever language you like, it's what
> gives you a sense of what to expect, and therefore the only basis one has
> for placing bets. Do you disagree?
>

​No, I don't disagree. A mind is the only source of ideas, even incorrect
ideas, even gibberish ideas. ​

​

 John K Clark​




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