Lawrence Crowell <>

> *> I keep trying to implore the prospect that mega-tech programs most
> likely do not scale in the linear fashion you keep advocating.*

You keep saying it does not scale but you don’t say why. Life has certainly
​ beautifully​
, it started with one small creature, all life has a common ancestor, but
look how big
​and wonderful ​
it has become
Nanobots can reproduce themselves just like living things can and
​they ​
are very very good at doing the same thing over and over again. If they
know how to make one
 foot of a Dyson Sphere then they know how to make a complete Dyson Sphere,
and if they also know how to make a rocket a quarter as powerful as the one
Elon Musk recently launched (actually one percent might do, maybe less)
then they know how
​to ​
put a Dyson Sphere around every star in the galaxy in just 50 million
years. The universe is 13.8 billion years old but we see no hint of them
and we should unless we’re the first or disaster is about to hit us just as
it has every other civilization when
 reach our point.

*> As they might evolve and migrate around the galaxy they would remain at
> least modest in scale*

So ET has a opportunity to add to its brainpower and think deeper thoughts
and do grander things
​ ​
but prefers not to. Maybe so, I did say that navel gazing, stagnation and
​ ​
​ ​
might be the answer to the Fermi Paradox.

*> For complex adaptive systems, such as evolving nanobots or vN probes,
> there most likely are scaling rules in both spatial dimensions as well as
> temperature and energy. *

If such rules exist they are irrelevant because nanobots don’t become
larger or more energetic, they just become more numerous

*> So either IGUS/ETI *

This is becoming alphabet soup, you told me what IGUS stood for but I’ve
already forgotten. Can’t we just call it ET?

*> is extremely rare or there are limits to the scale of their activities.*

I agree
existence would limit the scale of their activities
and destruction or electronic drug addiction would too.

 John K Clark​

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