On Sunday, February 18, 2018 at 1:09:37 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 2/18/2018 6:11 AM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Sunday, February 18, 2018 at 4:25:07 AM UTC-6, Russell Standish wrote: >> >> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 05:19:22PM -0800, Brent Meeker wrote: >> > >> > >> > On 2/17/2018 4:58 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> > > But what is the criterion when AI exceeds human intelligence? AG >> > > >> > > >> https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-16/father-artificial-intelligence-singularity-less-30-years-away >> >> > >> > So we need to sharpen the question. Exactly *what* is 30yrs away? >> > >> > Brent >> > >> >> According to the title (I haven't RTFA), it's the >> singularity. Starting from a point where a machine designs, >> and manufactures improved copies of itself, technology will supposedly >> veer from it's exponential path (Moore's law) etc to hyperbolic. Being >> hyperbolic, it reaches infinity within a finite period of time, >> expected to be a matter of months perhaps. >> >> Given that we really don't understand creative processes (not even >> good old fashioned biological evolution is really well understood), >> I'm sceptical about the 30 years prognostication. It is mostly based on >> extrapolating Moore's law, which is the easy part of technological >> change. >> >> This won't be a problem for my children - my grandchildren perhaps, if >> I ever end up having any. >> >> Cheers >> > > One thing a computer can not do is ask a question. I can ask a question > and program a computer to help solve the problem. In fact I am doing a > program to do just this. I am working a computer program to model aspects > of gravitational memory. What the computer will not do, at least computers > we currently employ will not do is to ask the question and then work to > solve it. A computer can find a numerical solution or render something > numerically, but it does not spontaneously act to ask the question or to > propose something creative to then solve or render the solution. > > > You must never have applied for a loan online. > > Brent >
I am not sure how that is relevant. No I have not applied for a loan online. In fact about 10 years ago or so I made a choice not to do financial transactions online. Of course in some sense this means I am becoming a bit of a slowpoke in that game, but I have worked to reduce my footprint on the digital landscape and to keep my financial decisions offline. This reduces my prospects for cyber-snooping and having personal information flying around out there. LC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
