On 2/18/2018 7:41 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On Sunday, February 18, 2018 at 8:35:59 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote:
On 2/18/2018 12:15 PM, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote:
On Sunday, February 18, 2018 at 12:09:37 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote:
On 2/18/2018 6:11 AM, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
On Sunday, February 18, 2018 at 4:25:07 AM UTC-6, Russell
Standish wrote:
On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 05:19:22PM -0800, Brent Meeker
wrote:
>
>
> On 2/17/2018 4:58 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> > But what is the criterion when AI exceeds human
intelligence? AG
> >
> >
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-16/father-artificial-intelligence-singularity-less-30-years-away
<https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-16/father-artificial-intelligence-singularity-less-30-years-away>
>
> So we need to sharpen the question. Exactly *what* is
30yrs away?
>
> Brent
>
According to the title (I haven't RTFA), it's the
singularity. Starting from a point where a machine designs,
and manufactures improved copies of itself, technology
will supposedly
veer from it's exponential path (Moore's law) etc to
hyperbolic. Being
hyperbolic, it reaches infinity within a finite period
of time,
expected to be a matter of months perhaps.
Given that we really don't understand creative processes
(not even
good old fashioned biological evolution is really well
understood),
I'm sceptical about the 30 years prognostication. It is
mostly based on
extrapolating Moore's law, which is the easy part of
technological change.
This won't be a problem for my children - my
grandchildren perhaps, if
I ever end up having any.
Cheers
One thing a computer can not do is ask a question. I can ask
a question and program a computer to help solve the problem.
In fact I am doing a program to do just this. I am working a
computer program to model aspects of gravitational memory.
What the computer will not do, at least computers we
currently employ will not do is to ask the question and then
work to solve it. A computer can find a numerical solution
or render something numerically, but it does not
spontaneously act to ask the question or to propose
something creative to then solve or render the solution.
You must never have applied for a loan online.
It can only do what it has been programmed to do. I can't act
independent of its program, such as wondering if some theory
makes sense, or coming up with tests of a theory. Or say, it
can't invent chess, it can only play it better than humans. It
can't "think" out of the box. AG
Yes, keep repeating that over and over. Repitition makes a
convincing argument...for some people.
Brent
*What's your countervailing evidence? You want to think it can think,
and that's YOUR repetitious argument. AG
*
https://www.ted.com/talks/maurice_conti_the_incredible_inventions_of_intuitive_ai#t-184772
Brent
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