> On 13 Apr 2018, at 19:14, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > You are confusing [...] > > Horseshit fron bullshit? > > > The follower of Aristotle thought [,,,] > > I don't give a damn what the followers of Aristotle The Ignorant thought.
That explains perhaps why you don’t seem to be aware that you defend all the time Aristotle’s metaphysics. > > > Plato was skeptical [...] > > It's really true, you just can't write a post without referring to > philosophers who would flunk a high school algebra test and a fourth grade > science test. You’d seems to be unaware that the ancient greek pagan and agnostic theology have been banned since 1500 years. Then, it happens that computer science provides arithmetical interpretation of some of those ancient theologian, showing at the least their consistency. Then assuming mechanism, we get the necessity too. > > > and believes we can keep using them exactly as they always have been used > even after personal pronoun duplicating machines have been invented. > > > On the contrary, the thought experience refutes exactly this, > > Then why do you keep asking the same very stupid question "After *YOU* have > been duplicated in a *YOU* duplicating machine what one and only one thing > will *YOU* see?” I asked something more precise, after explain the difference between the 1p-you and the 3p-you. > > > You keep criticising Aristotle and Plato without understanding that > today, in theology (atheists or christian) [...] > STOP RIGHT THERE! If atheist and Christian scholars both study theology then > theology is the study of things that are God and also the study of things t > As I said before, for Bruno words mean whatever Bruno wants them to mean and > in this case he has decreed that the word “theology" has no meaning at all. > > I use the word in the original sense. Not in the sense of those who have taken theology back from science and confuse it with politics and state. > > They have become rich because they have already understood this. > > If matter is not needed to make a calculation how did the founders of Intel > get rich wasting their time making microchips when all they needed was a > textbook on Robinson arithmetic? To implement computations relatively to their local physical reality. But that events is explained in the indexical way in arithmetic. > Actually they didn't even need the textbook, all they needed was for Robinson > arithmetic to exist. Yes, and it exists as a consequence of elementary arithmetic, where Robison theory becomes a number involved in complex universal relation. > > > The idea that observation ==> reality (contradicted by the existence of > dreams) IS Aristotle metaphysical axiom. > And that is precisely the sort of fuzzy thinking that prevented your buddies > the Greeks from starting the scientific revolution in 400BC, we had to wait > another 2000 years for that to happen when some people started to realize the > Greeks were not nearly as smart as they thought they were. And now in 2018 > you want to retreat back into ignorance > > > you assume Aristotle metaphysics > > Oh for christ sake! Are you able to doubt the assumption of physicalism? Apparently not, from what you say above. This means you are religious in the pejorative science. You acts like if you knew the (metaphysical) truth. That does not help. Bruno > > John K Clark > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
