Le jeu. 31 mai 2018 à 19:57, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> a écrit :

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> On 5/31/2018 2:06 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
> >
> > You're a bit naughty Brent. You sometimes use this maneuver of
> > nonchalantly listing something that is being discussed -- but that you
> > don't like -- along with something else that is obviously outdated or
> > silly.
>
> It's not that I "don't like" primary matter, it's that I think it's an
> invented term that nobody actually postulates.


Si materialism and physicalism are an invention of Bruno... Or maybe not.

I'd like to see Bruno
> actually quote some well known philosophers or scientist using the
> term.  I think he reads people like Dennett or Churchland who defend the
> possibility of a physical explanation of consciousness and, since he
> thinks consciousness is more fundamental than physics, he wants to
> accuse them of believing in "primary matter".
>
> >
> > "Oh you think that quantum mechanics and consciousness might be
> > connected? How are those Deepak Chopra teachings working for you?"
> > etc...
> >
> > So, forgetting the elan vitale, I would like you to make you position
> > more precise. Do you think that tax money should only be applied to
> > research that is obviously and immediately useful?
>
> Of course not.
>
> > Or are you ok with
> > trusting tenured academics and peer-review to decide what gets funded?
> > In the second case, I guess we must all have some tolerance for ideas
> > that we don't agree with, right?
>
> Right.
>
> Brent
>
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