> On 1 Jun 2018, at 03:25, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> 
>> > On 31 May 2018, at 02:33, Brent Meeker < 
>> > <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] 
>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Of course something can make some computations unreal, namely their 
>> > non-existence in the world. 
>> 
>> Which World?
> 
> Rhetorical flourish!

Not at all. 

You know, God was a nickname for “the ultimate truth we are searching when 
doing fundamental science”, and the “blasphemy” was for any invocation and 
special use of of concept like “true”, “reality”, “world” … the use of this is 
invalid. You could as well invoke miracle.

So you lack some background in metaphysics and/or what is the scientific 
attitude.



> 
>> You cannot appeal to an ontological commitment in science.
> 
> There is no ontological commitment in phenomenology -- unless you want to 
> deny the existence of consciousness….

Ah, so you think that the notion of world used by Brent was phenomenological?

That makes my point in that case, as physics must becomes phenomenological, 
which was all I needed to justify.




> 
>> Here is you god, selecting an histories, or a class of histories. How? 
>> Magical power? Then I can no more say yes to the doctor without praying or 
>> something.
> 
> More empty rhetorical flourishes. We know that when you resort to your store 
> of empty rhetorical flourishes that you have no answer to the substantive 
> points that have been made.


*That* is pure rhetorical flourishes. You avoid the reasoning. 

Bruno




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