> On 30 May 2018, at 11:27, Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]> > wrote: > > On Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 1:25:19 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > You miss my point that no one, no physicists, no philosopher, starts out by > defining "primary matter". It is your invention as a straw man to be > defeated by computationalism. Some physicists and some philosophers may > suppose that the stuff described by physics is enough to explain the world we > observe; but most also suppose that it is not "primary". They look for a > deeper more unified ur-stuff and many physicists have followed Wheeler and > Tegmark in thinking of the equations of mathematical physics as simply > defining the ur-stuff. > > Brent > > This and other old philosophical ideas are of no utility in physics. There is > no physical meaning to terms such as primary matter.
I agree. At least partially. Aristotle does not mention it in any of its books on Nature, be it zoology, botany or physics. He introduce the term only in his theology/metaphysics, where he introduces his god-like notion. But this does not mean that the primary matter hypothesis, or its antipode: mechanism cannot be tested, and indeed I show exactly how, and test it from the material already available in physics. The result is that nature fits with Mechanism, and not with Materialism and/or Physicalism. To put it clearly: physics cannot be the fundamental science. Physics can be reduced to universal machine/number theology, which is itself a branch of arithmetic. Only Pythagorus theology fits with the known facts. God created the natural numbers, the rest belongs provably (assuming mechanism) and verifiably (as far as the quantum theory is not refuted) to the relative number theoretical Turing universal relations. Bruno > > LC > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
