> On 7 Jun 2018, at 23:11, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 6/7/2018 10:12 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> On 7 Jun 2018, at 02:26, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6/6/2018 10:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>>> It does. When the machine opts for <>p in the doubt between p and <>p, if >>>> it let it go, in some sense, it transforms itself into a more speedy and >>>> more efficacious machine, with respect to its most probable history. >>>> So, consciousness brings a self-speedable ability, which is quite handy >>>> for self-moving being living in between a prey and a predator. >>> >>> Do you play tennis, Bruno? Try thinking consciously about your strokes to >>> speed up your game. >> >> Consciousness speed all computations (to be sure it is only on all inputs >> except a finite number of exception, so it might not be directly practical), >> but if that happen, you can guess that the one computing more quickly will >> be better at tennis. > > Computing more quickly, but unconsciously. However, I don't see anyplace for > the unconscious in your theory. Yet almost all thinking, as information > processing, is unconscious.
? What you say is coherent with mechanism. Consciousness requires sophisticated loop. The unconscious is anything without that loop. No numbers sequences will support consciousness without having the relations making it emulating a universal machine, for example. > >> When its opponent strike the ball, he feels (rightly) that has more time to >> react. >> >> I did not say that trying to be conscious cannot also impair. Just that >> consciousness speed-up the whole process. (Admittedly not in a usable >> algorithmic way). That still can be self for entities not aware of the first >> person delays, confronted to the limiting sum on all computations, here and >> now, below their substitution level. > > The "limiting sum on all computations" refers to your model of the UD. My model? The UD and its execution is a consequence of Kxy = x and Sxyz = xy(zy), or arithmetic. > But that is timeless, i.e. exists in Platonia. The natural numbers are timeless, and with the addition and multiplication laws, that defines a block mindscape. It is not more platonic that a quantum field or GR, or any model of any physical theories, but it assumes much less, solves the mind-body problem up to verifiable consequences, and indeed, it match well the theories inferred from observation so far, which is not the case of physicalism which has still to use an indent thesis refuted in the indexical Digital Mechanis theory. Bruno > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
