On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 12:30:02 PM UTC, Jason wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:04 AM, <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> >>> >> *No "but's" about it! That's the 800 pound gorilla in the room that Many >> Worlder's studiously ignore. There's no proposed mechanism to explain the >> copying! They will appeal to the mathematics, which they rely on >> uncritically. But it's obvious that such reliance can lead to ridiculous >> results if taken literally. For example, Maxwell's equations have plane >> wave solutions, but plane waves don't exist! Think about what a plane wave >> is; all peaks and troughs extend to infinity, advancing along an infinite >> plane in every direction. And No, I don't have a classical view of reality, >> but neither do I fall in love with BS. AG* >> >>> >>> >>> > Rather thank think of it like copying, think of it like this: > > - When a photon hits a semi-silvered mirror, it splits and takes two > paths. Now, both the photon's position and its direction are multi-valued. >
*Does it split into two photons, each having the same energy as the original photon? If so, where does the added energy come from. Or does it split in half? Or does it take two possible paths, not both paths simultaneously? TIA, AG * > - We can use full-silvered mirrors to redirect this "multi-valued" photon > such that both of its positions will converge (while nonetheless traveling > in different directions on that intercept course) > - We can place an electron at that point of interception, such that this > multi-velocity photon interacts with and strikes this electron (which right > now only has one position and zero velocity) > - When the multi-velocity photon hits the electron, the electron now has > two velocities (you could view it as in one case, it was hit from below, > and in another case it was hit from the side). > > So we see a clear case, where a photon, being in a super-position of > states, when it interacts with an electron, it's multiple states transfer > to that electron such that it now ends up in a super position, and will > have different positions and velocities over time. Anything that interacts > with that electron, or doesn't interact with it will also become > multi-valued. > > Let's say there is a detection screen to the right of the electron, the > multi-valued electron interacts with the atoms in the detection screen. > Because the electron's position is multi-valued, and only one of the > electron's velocity's intercept the screen, the atoms in the detection > screen also enter a super position, of having interacted with the electron > and having not interacted with the electron (the upward moving electron > velocity misses the screen). So now there is a superposition of states in > the room where a flash flash of light from the screen has occurred, and > where no flash of light on the screen has occurred. > > You can continue this example forward until you end up with yourself in > the room with two different brains, one where it is encoding memories of > having seen a flash of light and another where it did not. Nothing special > is itnroduced by the observer, the observer is, afterall, just a collection > of particles, each of which may or may not enter a superposition of states, > depending on whether or not they interact with any particle that is in a > super position. > > This is how the "copying" works. It's just state transfer. Think of it > as: > > x is in a superposition of +3 and - 3. In other words x = ±3 > y is 5 > > y interacts with x as follows: y = y * x > > What this means is y = 5 * (±3) > > Now y is multi-valued, in a superposition of 15 and -15. > > No magic full scale copying of entire universes. It's just particle > states can be multi-valued, and anything that interacts with a multi-valued > particle is effected by it being multi-valued. > > Jason > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
