On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 1:11:23 PM UTC, Jason wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:42 AM, <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 12:30:02 PM UTC, Jason wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:04 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> *No "but's" about it! That's the 800 pound gorilla in the room that >>>> Many Worlder's studiously ignore. There's no proposed mechanism to explain >>>> the copying! They will appeal to the mathematics, which they rely on >>>> uncritically. But it's obvious that such reliance can lead to ridiculous >>>> results if taken literally. For example, Maxwell's equations have plane >>>> wave solutions, but plane waves don't exist! Think about what a plane wave >>>> is; all peaks and troughs extend to infinity, advancing along an infinite >>>> plane in every direction. And No, I don't have a classical view of >>>> reality, >>>> but neither do I fall in love with BS. AG* >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> Rather thank think of it like copying, think of it like this: >>> >>> - When a photon hits a semi-silvered mirror, it splits and takes two >>> paths. Now, both the photon's position and its direction are multi-valued. >>> >> >> >> *Does it split into two photons, each having the same energy as the >> original photon? If so, where does the added energy come from. Or does it >> split in half? Or does it take two possible paths, not both paths >> simultaneously? TIA, AG* >> > > Think of it being only a change to the photon's properties. >
*If you are able, and have the time, please answer my question above, specifically. TIA, AG* > It's not really two photons, it's a single photon, now holding multiple > values for some of its properties (which include velocity, position, > frequency, polarization, etc.) After interacting with a semi-silvered > mirror, the same thing always happens to a photon, it takes on multiple > values for its velocity. > > Jason > > > >> >> >>> - We can use full-silvered mirrors to redirect this "multi-valued" >>> photon such that both of its positions will converge (while nonetheless >>> traveling in different directions on that intercept course) >>> - We can place an electron at that point of interception, such that this >>> multi-velocity photon interacts with and strikes this electron (which right >>> now only has one position and zero velocity) >>> - When the multi-velocity photon hits the electron, the electron now has >>> two velocities (you could view it as in one case, it was hit from below, >>> and in another case it was hit from the side). >>> >>> So we see a clear case, where a photon, being in a super-position of >>> states, when it interacts with an electron, it's multiple states transfer >>> to that electron such that it now ends up in a super position, and will >>> have different positions and velocities over time. Anything that interacts >>> with that electron, or doesn't interact with it will also become >>> multi-valued. >>> >>> Let's say there is a detection screen to the right of the electron, the >>> multi-valued electron interacts with the atoms in the detection screen. >>> Because the electron's position is multi-valued, and only one of the >>> electron's velocity's intercept the screen, the atoms in the detection >>> screen also enter a super position, of having interacted with the electron >>> and having not interacted with the electron (the upward moving electron >>> velocity misses the screen). So now there is a superposition of states in >>> the room where a flash flash of light from the screen has occurred, and >>> where no flash of light on the screen has occurred. >>> >>> You can continue this example forward until you end up with yourself in >>> the room with two different brains, one where it is encoding memories of >>> having seen a flash of light and another where it did not. Nothing special >>> is itnroduced by the observer, the observer is, afterall, just a collection >>> of particles, each of which may or may not enter a superposition of states, >>> depending on whether or not they interact with any particle that is in a >>> super position. >>> >>> This is how the "copying" works. It's just state transfer. Think of it >>> as: >>> >>> x is in a superposition of +3 and - 3. In other words x = ±3 >>> y is 5 >>> >>> y interacts with x as follows: y = y * x >>> >>> What this means is y = 5 * (±3) >>> >>> Now y is multi-valued, in a superposition of 15 and -15. >>> >>> No magic full scale copying of entire universes. It's just particle >>> states can be multi-valued, and anything that interacts with a multi-valued >>> particle is effected by it being multi-valued. >>> >>> Jason >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
