On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:42 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 12:30:02 PM UTC, Jason wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:04 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>>> >>> *No "but's" about it! That's the 800 pound gorilla in the room that Many >>> Worlder's studiously ignore. There's no proposed mechanism to explain the >>> copying! They will appeal to the mathematics, which they rely on >>> uncritically. But it's obvious that such reliance can lead to ridiculous >>> results if taken literally. For example, Maxwell's equations have plane >>> wave solutions, but plane waves don't exist! Think about what a plane wave >>> is; all peaks and troughs extend to infinity, advancing along an infinite >>> plane in every direction. And No, I don't have a classical view of reality, >>> but neither do I fall in love with BS. AG* >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> Rather thank think of it like copying, think of it like this: >> >> - When a photon hits a semi-silvered mirror, it splits and takes two >> paths. Now, both the photon's position and its direction are multi-valued. >> > > > *Does it split into two photons, each having the same energy as the > original photon? If so, where does the added energy come from. Or does it > split in half? Or does it take two possible paths, not both paths > simultaneously? TIA, AG* >
Think of it being only a change to the photon's properties. It's not really two photons, it's a single photon, now holding multiple values for some of its properties (which include velocity, position, frequency, polarization, etc.) After interacting with a semi-silvered mirror, the same thing always happens to a photon, it takes on multiple values for its velocity. Jason > > >> - We can use full-silvered mirrors to redirect this "multi-valued" photon >> such that both of its positions will converge (while nonetheless traveling >> in different directions on that intercept course) >> - We can place an electron at that point of interception, such that this >> multi-velocity photon interacts with and strikes this electron (which right >> now only has one position and zero velocity) >> - When the multi-velocity photon hits the electron, the electron now has >> two velocities (you could view it as in one case, it was hit from below, >> and in another case it was hit from the side). >> >> So we see a clear case, where a photon, being in a super-position of >> states, when it interacts with an electron, it's multiple states transfer >> to that electron such that it now ends up in a super position, and will >> have different positions and velocities over time. Anything that interacts >> with that electron, or doesn't interact with it will also become >> multi-valued. >> >> Let's say there is a detection screen to the right of the electron, the >> multi-valued electron interacts with the atoms in the detection screen. >> Because the electron's position is multi-valued, and only one of the >> electron's velocity's intercept the screen, the atoms in the detection >> screen also enter a super position, of having interacted with the electron >> and having not interacted with the electron (the upward moving electron >> velocity misses the screen). So now there is a superposition of states in >> the room where a flash flash of light from the screen has occurred, and >> where no flash of light on the screen has occurred. >> >> You can continue this example forward until you end up with yourself in >> the room with two different brains, one where it is encoding memories of >> having seen a flash of light and another where it did not. Nothing special >> is itnroduced by the observer, the observer is, afterall, just a collection >> of particles, each of which may or may not enter a superposition of states, >> depending on whether or not they interact with any particle that is in a >> super position. >> >> This is how the "copying" works. It's just state transfer. Think of it >> as: >> >> x is in a superposition of +3 and - 3. In other words x = ±3 >> y is 5 >> >> y interacts with x as follows: y = y * x >> >> What this means is y = 5 * (±3) >> >> Now y is multi-valued, in a superposition of 15 and -15. >> >> No magic full scale copying of entire universes. It's just particle >> states can be multi-valued, and anything that interacts with a multi-valued >> particle is effected by it being multi-valued. >> >> Jason >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
