> On 13 Aug 2018, at 23:32, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 8/13/2018 7:27 AM, Jason Resch wrote: >> I bring this question up because you repeatedly refer to only "one Alice" >> before the measurement, and also say that Alice and Bob are "in one and the >> same branch" prior to measurement. But normal QM without collapse would say >> Alice and Bob are branching all the time, even before they measure their >> entangled pair. So isn't it necessary to take this into consideration (that >> this is implicitly the original scenario): > > There are many branchings of the wf describing Alice, almost all of them are > irrelevant to who Alice is. They are below the quasi-classical level at > which "Alice" exists; below the level at which her brain decides at what > angle to measure the particle. All those Alices are one person. So they are > treated as one classical being. That they split into two (up or down) > classically distinct beings, is unrelated to the fact there are many > microscopically different Alices. > > It is not clear to me how Bruno thinks of these many quasi-classical, Alices. > He seems to just dismiss their differences as below replacement level the > Doctor promises.
? On the contrary, it is by taking into account all computations below the substitution level that we recover qualitatively the “many-worlds”, and quantatively the quantum logical structure. > That seems like assuming that they are really classical entities, just > similar computational threads in the UD. ? On the contrary, you forget the first person indeterminacy which makes any physical history NOT emulable by a computer, except a quantum one (which exploits that infinity of computations). The arithmetical non-cloning proceeds from this too. You forgot that the invariance of the first person experiences for the delays of the universal dovetailing makes physics non classical, and even not entirely computable (yet still approximable, if I can say). Bruno > > Brent > >> >> There are many Alices, and many Bobs, and depending on the experimental >> setup, many measurement angle choices? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
