> On 21 Sep 2018, at 19:55, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 7:20 PM Philip Thrift <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > >> Mind is what a brain does > > >And walking and running is what the legs do. > There is no "walking" like some Platonic immaterial universal except for some > pair of legs to be doing it. > > Right, there is no thinking without a brain (biological or electronic) to do > it.
Assuming your ontological commitment, but that is pseudo-religion. Or equivalently: you confuse matter and primitive matter. Nobody doubt that to have human or biological consciousness, we need a human brain or some electronic device, but that is irrelevant. What has been proved, (see Kleene’s 1952 book) is that the arithmetical reality emulates all computations. No need of any more assumption than Church thesis and the very elementary arithmetic. But an ontological physical reality is only metaphysical speculation or hypothesis, and in our setting it is invalid to use it as a counter-argument. The most you can do, if you really want to take your ontology for granted, is to reject Digital Mechanism or to find a mistake in my argument, without using your ontological commitment (which would beg the question). Up to now, you have failed to that. Bruno > > John K Clark > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
