On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 11:50 AM Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> wrote:
>>it's true I am confused I don't understand, but anybody who thinks they >> understand gibberish is a fool. >> > > *> To me and probably to many others it seems obvious that the Helsinki > man can expect to end up either in Moscow or Washington after the > duplication. * > Before you me or anybody else can say what the Helsinki man should expect to see tomorrow we need to agree on exactly what "the Helsinki man tomorrow" means, and the most important person who needs to agree and the person who should make the definition is the Helsinki man today. After that we can debate what "the Helsinki man tomorrow" will or will not see; otherwise we're just spinning our wheels. > *> Can you perhaps step outside of the argument and speculate as to why > there should be such disagreement, why you imagine some people would think > it is obvious when you think it is not only not obvious, but ridiculous? * Probably because it's all so far outside of normal everyday experience. For technological (not scientific) reasons people duplicating machines don't exist yet and thus somebody can live their entire life just fine and never think deeply about any of this stuff even once. And although logically consistent this stuff is certainly weird and counterintuitive so it's easy to just dismiss it. Or say it's all so theoretical and abstract that it's of no more importance than debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin; and that may be true today but in less than 80 years (maybe less than 20) resolving this matter in your mind will be of enormous practical value. It will become a matter of survival not abstract philosophy. As for me I think if logic takes me to a place that is counterintuitive then my intuition must have been wrong, it wouldn't be the first time. And I think resolving this matter in my mind is rather important even today, that's why I signed up with Alcor. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
