> On 19 Oct 2018, at 00:20, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 9:21 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected] 
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> > the idea that there are moment where we are not conscious is very natural, 
> > but it is not a fact, it is a theory,
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> Then can you name something, anything, that IS a fact and not a theory?

Could you quote what you said before. Just to better understand. I was 
answering you.
An exemple of a fact is that  am conscious right now, then, we can take many 
observations as facts, like the presence of far away galaxies, Higgs boson, 
etc. I am OK to count the elementary arithmetical facts. I take as a fact that 
the sum of the inverse of the naturel numbers exponent some number s is the 
product of the inverse of the opposed of the inverse of the primes numbers, 
exponent that number. 
It is also a fact that elementary arithmetic emulate (in the sense of Turing, 
Church, Kleene, etc.) all computations. Even the tiny sigma_1 complete part of 
it.

But I am not sure how you could test that you have been unconscious. Some 
conscious experience are not memorisable, or hardly so.



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> > probably selected by evolution,
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> Evolution can't select for something it can't see and it can't see your 
> consciousness any better than I can, but I can see your intelligent behavior 
> and so can Evolution.  

OK. I meant selected through evolution.

Bruno



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