> On 18 Oct 2018, at 21:29, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/18/2018 6:32 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> 
>>> On 16 Oct 2018, at 19:28, John Clark <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 10:05 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> >> you know for a fact you're not conscious all the time, you know you're 
>>> >> not conscious when you're sleeping or under anesthesia or before you 
>>> >> were born and, although you don't know for certain, you probably suspect 
>>> >> you won't be conscious after you're dead. And you may have also noticed 
>>> >> a pattern here, you seem to only be conscious when you have the ability 
>>> >> to behave intelligently.
>>> 
>>> > "Having the ability to behave intelligently" is not something I can know. 
>>> 
>>> I don't think very intelligently when I'm sleeping and I've known that for 
>>> as far back as I can remember. Are you any different?
>> 
>> 
>> How can you judge that you are thinking more intelligently when you are 
>> awake? 
>> Also, can you be sure that you are awake?
>> 
>> Can anyone judge its own intelligence?
> 
> The same way they judge anyone's intelligence, by their behavior.  Don't you 
> give tests to your students?  Do you never take tests?

I never judge the intelligence from the result of test. I can judge competence, 
but that is not intelligence, which is more a form of courage to be able to 
admit her been shown wrong when that is the case. Intelligence is needed to 
develop competence, but competence very often transform someone into an idiot 
incapable to evolve. I think stupidity is more or less "programmed by 
evolution”, as with this theory kids are intelligent, and adulthood is 
stupidity, as living requires some stupidity perhaps. Even lies have roles 
(already in arithmetic). Intelligence is a state of mind. Stupidity is mainly 
an insult. Useful when people lack arguments, as we can see in so many 
discussion (alas).

Bruno



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