> On 19 Oct 2018, at 23:50, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 10/19/2018 12:09 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>>> The same way they judge anyone's intelligence, by their behavior.  Don't 
>>> you give tests to your students?  Do you never take tests?
>> 
>> I never judge the intelligence from the result of test. I can judge 
>> competence, but that is not intelligence, which is more a form of courage to 
>> be able to admit her been shown wrong when that is the case. Intelligence is 
>> needed to develop competence, but competence very often transform someone 
>> into an idiot incapable to evolve. I think stupidity is more or less 
>> "programmed by evolution”, as with this theory kids are intelligent, and 
>> adulthood is stupidity, as living requires some stupidity perhaps. Even lies 
>> have roles (already in arithmetic). Intelligence is a state of mind. 
>> Stupidity is mainly an insult. Useful when people lack arguments, as we can 
>> see in so many discussion (alas).
> 
> And when people lack answer's they evade the question by digressions into 
> some other topics.  You think jumping spiders are conscious, based on their 
> behavior.  But when I ask whether you can judge your student's inetlligence, 
> you throw up a fog of musings about stupidity and evolution.  If intelligence 
> is needed to develop competence, which can be measured by behavoir,  then the 
> inability to develop competence is a measure of intelligence.

OK. But judging an inability is difficult. For my civil service, I worked with 
people labeled as highly mentally disabled, but by using computer (which was 
new at that time), I was able to discern an ability to develop competence on 
many of them. Not all, but the experience showed that a new technology was able 
to help in that positive discernment.




> 
> Yes or no, can you judge someone's intelligence by their behavior.

I can appreciate their intelligence, but that is not saying much, as my 
criteria makes a pebble intelligent, even in a trivial way. You be stupid you 
need a lot of neurons, to build prejudices and become unable to change them.

Bruno




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