On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 3:48:31 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > Matter plays a fundamental role in sensibility, but that is a theorem in > Mechanism, and that “matter” is phenomenological. It does not exist in the > base ontology. Or f it does, then how could it play a non mechanist role? > No problem with rejecting computationalism, if you want matter or other > god to play a role, but why not testing this before complicating the > cognitive science for … what? > > Bruno > >
If the starting point is *There are no such things as numbers* [ or - in general terms - *mathematical entities* ], then one is left with something (assuming there is something) and something is matter. There is no evidence in any scientific sense that mathematical entities exist. Mathematics is fiction (in the sense of mathematical fictionalism). That applies to computation, if computation is viewed as a branch of mathematics. But matter that has intrinsic experientiality can be that something that does exist for both behavioral (information) and phenomenological (experience, consciousness) aspects of the universe. - pt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.