On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 4:56:51 PM UTC, [email protected] wrote: > > > > On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 4:22:54 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 28 Nov 2018, at 21:10, [email protected] wrote: >> >> Bruno, can you do it without resort to your idiosyncratic jargon? AG >> >> >> >> I can do that. >> > > *I don't believe it can be done. For example, even if there exists such a > thing as a complex sum whose amplitude squared can be calculated (and > presumably something implied by arithmetic), how would you know that this > is the way to calculate probabilities for quantum experiments? AG * >
*Put another way, there's nothing in pure arithmetic to indicate how to calculate a probability in quantum experiments. Same goes for, say, the x and p operators used in QM; and so forth. AG* Actually the “universal dovetailer argument (UDA)” is a version of my >> thesis accessible to kids, at least up to the seventh step (the 8th one >> requires some good understanding of the Church’s or Turing’s thesis). >> >> But it might be quicker to read the sane04 paper, and ask me question >> wherever you don’t understand? >> >> The UDA explains informally why, once we assume mechanism, we have to >> recover the physical appearance from arithmetic only. >> >> The translation of the UDA in arithmetic gives then all the mathematical >> details to do the extraction of physics, and we have got already the >> quantum logics of the quanta and of the qualia (accepting some definitions >> of course). But this of course asks for learning a bit of mathematical >> logic (“my” idiosyncratic jargon, I guess). >> >> Now, if you prefer to study online, we can do that, step by step. Just >> take a look at the sane04 paper, which you can read or download here: >> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/publications/SANE2004MARCHALAbstract.html. >> (*) >> >> And tell me if you prefer to ask me question, or to do the whole thing >> step by step online. >> >> You might need to be patient, as I am still 500 mails late … >> >> Bruno >> >> >> (*) B. Marchal. The Origin of Physical Laws and Sensations. In 4th >> International System Administration and Network Engineering Conference, >> SANE 2004, Amsterdam, 2004. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
