On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:35 AM Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 5:01 AM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 8:18 PM Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 4:34 PM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 4:21 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 19 Dec 2018, at 12:59, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dynamics is the study of matter in motion. There are no clocks in
>>>>> arithmetic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course there is clock. The successor function implements it out of
>>>>> time and space.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The fact that you can use one ordered sequence to index another ordered
>>>> sequence does not constitute a clock.
>>>>
>>>> Nothing exists out of time and space, not even time and space
>>>> themselves.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Accordingly, you must reject:
>>>
>>>    - Membranes
>>>    - String theory landscape
>>>    - Eternal inflation
>>>    - The inside of black holes (yet another observer-dependent
>>>    phenomenon)
>>>    - Other universes with different physics (it's amazing that our
>>>    universe allows for life, assuming it's the only universe that exists)
>>>
>>> All of these ideas have at least some motivation/support. Why reject
>>> them out of hand?
>>>
>>
>> This is a very mixed list! Some of these have no evidential support, some
>> are mere speculation, and other universes with different physics is a long
>> stretch, not at all in accordance with present knowledge.  I do not reject
>> all these possibilities, but we do need more data on some of them. None of
>> them exist outside of space-time, however.
>>
>
>  What do you think about the apparent fine-tuning of the universe? e.g.
> https://www.amazon.com/Just-Six-Numbers-Forces-Universe-ebook/dp/B00CW0H6JY
>
> Isn't this a very strong statistical argument that other universes with
> different physical laws must exist?
>

No. there is no evidence for that at all. Why should the constants of
nature be a random selection from some distribution?

Bruce

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